Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Obama Insults Gypsy People with Use of Derogatory Racist Word

I am fully aware that this posting is likely to generate an emotional response. Please be mindful That I only post on this blog when I feel there is something meaningful and important to share, before reading please take a moment to ponder on these words;

"All truth passes through three stages...First it is ridiculed..secondly it is violently opposed ..thirdly it is accepted as self-evident"
Arthur Schopenhauer
Pholosopher 1788-1860

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Earlier this month Barack Obama stated during a speech he was making about health care that;

“All we're trying to do is make sure that if you're buying health insurance on the private marketplace that you're not getting gouged, and gypped, by the insurance companies."

The word Gypped, is a derogatory and a racist slur against the Gypsy/Roma people meaning to rob or defraud by sharp practice it is an Americanism and originates from the word “Gypsy”. I do not accept the argument that this was probably a mistake and Obama did not know the meaning of the word “Gypped”..it is at best slang and as such should have no part in a political speech. Obama has an army of support staff who also let this pass uncensored. There has been no apology.

It is startlingly shocking that a world leader who rose to power aboard the wonderful magic carpet ride otherwise known as “the race card” should make such a remark. Whilst I would agree a first black President would be a wonderful thing indeed, I don’t hold the belief that any black President will do.

The world seems to be bewitched by the concept and blinded to the facts by some form of politically correct mass hysteria.

If this man chooses to use such derogatory terms maybe he should look first to himself before he passes remark about others, if we must use this word well just who has “gypped” who?

Firstly Obama is not the first black President, he is however the first “mixed race” President; but that may not hold the same political passport to power.

Speaking of passports, there seems to be more than a little controversy surrounding Obama’s nationality and therefore his qualification to be president at all. The Obama story..like all good fairy tales requires the listener to be sitting comfortably.

So..If you are sitting comfortably ..I will begin..

To qualify to be President of the USA you must be a “natural born” American, Obama’s father was Kenyan, and his dear old Grandmother excitedly bragged to the worlds press that her grandson was going to be president of the USA..and how she was present in the delivery room when he was born….In Kenya.

Obama himself claims to have been born in Honolulu Hawaii, and his sister backs this up, she names the hospital he was born in, but she can’t quite make up her mind on which one, firstly she named Kapiolani Hospital, but later named Queens Hospital, couple this with the fact that Obama refuses to produce the very document that could lay all of this to rest..his birth certificate.

Now the subject of the birth certificate opens up another hornets nest. Obama put a copy of a birth certificate on his website.In fact here were 2 “certification of Live Birth's” posted and were verified by Factcheck.org.



One of the certificates published by Obama

One of the Certification of Live birth's had the Certification number blacked out, the other Certification of Live Birth showed the Certification number. Factcheck.org is a company that checks documents for authenticity
As it happens Factcheck is part of Annenberg, a Chicago based company disbursing up to $60 millon a year. Obama sat on the board of this company for several years, so hardly a neutral company to employ to verify the documents.
Obama did not declare his interest in that company but then that hardly comes as a surprise when you consider that this man has also refused to release both his medical & education records.

One story goes along the lines that Obama’s mother travelled to Kenya while pregnant, but was not well received by her in laws because she was white. Heavily pregnant she left Kenya because she did not like the way Muslim men treated their wives. A fine and plausible storyline if you take it in isolation. It is somewhat flawed however when you consider that not that many years into the future she married another Muslim man,Lolo Soetoro an Indonesian a strange move considering her alleged reason for leaving Kenya, but even stranger is the fact that not only did she marry another Muslim man, but she took her very young son to Indonesia which at the time was a war zone.
There are records and photographs of a very young Obama at school in Indonesia, but his name has been changed to Barry Soetoro his religion listed as Islam. At this time in Indonesia only Indonesian Citizens were allowed to attend school. The only way this could have been achieved is if his step father had adopted or acknowledged him thus enabling him to secure Indonesian citizenship. This would have relinquished any US citizenship he might have had, he could, on his return to the US have applied to be a naturalised American, but that would not have qualified him for Presidency.


There are just too many questions surrounding this mans background. Why has no birth certificate been actually produced in the flesh for inspection? So to recap two different hospitals have been named as his place of birth together with two different birth certificates. I am also told that records of live births show a fair amount of information that does not appear on the certificates produced by Obama. A genuine live birth certificate has the hospital or other named location where the birth took place, together with the Doctors name and the midwifes name
A genuine certification of live birth for a
Baby born in Hawaii
The reason why the certificate produced by Obama does not have this information is because it is issued based upon the unverified report of an adult, usually the parent, or some other person.
A certificate like this can be obtained in Hawaii and no evidence is required that the birth actually took place there only that the person reporting the birth attests that it did. It is unique to Hawaiian law that it allows for the reporting of a birth outside of the Hawaiian Islands as long as one of the child’s parents can claim to have lived in Hawaii as their principle place of residence for the year prior to the birth. ( this law was effective between 1911 and 1972)

Interestingly, and adding to the doubts about Obama’s place of birth and seemingly transient nationality/citizenship, Obama claims to have travelled to Pakistan in 1981. Whilst this might have been intended to enhance his credentials as a well travelled and well rounded individual he inadvertently added to the already compelling questions.

In 1981 Americans were not free to travel to Pakistan; the country was under martial law. Obama, must have used his Indonesian citizenship and passport to enter Pakistan, there is the possibility that being born in Kenya in 1961 Obama could possibly have held a British passport, but the most likely and obvious reason why he was allowed to travel to Pakistan at this time was that he travelled as an Islamic Indonesian citizen whose name was Barry Soetoro.

There are just too many questions over Obama’s qualification to be President of US. I would not wish to give the impression that my objections to him are based on racial or religious objection. My objection is based on fear. Here we have a man who appears very compellingly to have risen to power by falsifying his past. The question “why” needs to be explored fully. History will show that those who have been driven by the need to rise to personal power have had devastating effect when the “self” inevitably comes before the common good.

Obama who is so clearly impassioned about discrimination towards African Americans thinks nothing of delivering racist slurs against another ethnic people. A people that I might add have a long way to go before they come close to enjoying a lifestyle remotely akin to that enjoyed by most African Americans. As such a powerful world leader he should be ever mindful of the impact of his words, but sadly I believe that he is fully mindful.

For 17 months Philip J Berg the former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania has been fighting through the US Courts to expose Obama. Berg is also a life long Democrat so his beef is not a political one I have come to the conclusion that Berg’s fight for the truth is a moral one. Remarkably Obama could have simply produced his birth certificate and ended this lawsuit, but instead he chose with the full backing of the DNC to apply for a motion to have the case dismissed.

Speaking to me on Sunday night Philip J Berg stated;

“Obama is a phony, a fraud and this is the biggest "HOAX" upon the United States in over 230 years, all put forth by Obama and his cronies ! !”

I have grave reservations about Barak Obama and the more I look into him the greater my fears. If I gazed into my Crystal ball I might well be faced with a vision of chaos being brought to the world brought by a tall dark and admittedly extremely handsome man.

I wish Phil Berg luck in his quest for the truth but realistically the truth is very likely to bring with it turmoil and unrest on a massive scale. If all the indications, and there are many prove to be correct then Obama should never have been allowed to run for president due to lack of qualification and his deceit will set the cause of African Americans in the Political arena back decades.

I and many honest hardworking law abiding Gypsy/Roma people worldwide object to Obama’s off hand racist slur and we are still awaiting the apology that is a long time coming.

“Gypped” Mr President? How dare you?

As a British Romany Gypsy woman I like to speak from the heart and I like to do so clearly with as little margin for error as possible. Kindly keep your derogatory remarks to yourself, your are in no position to cast such aspersions, because from where I sit it looks very clear to me that you have “conned” and “deceived” 18 million trusting US citizens into voting for you.

Shay Clipson Dec 2009
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39 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shay, you had your comments link blanked out !
I gather you have now noticed because you have enabled it again

December 16, 2009 at 1:03:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sigh" Really Pesha? Really? I'm sure he didn't even know what he was saying or the implications of it. Reading all of your other posts with much larger racial problems this appears to be more minor.

By the way Mr. Obama has been compared to JFK one of our greatest presidents . Mr Obama has accomplished more in the short time he's been in office than most have in years. He's brought the economy back, passed several important bills and the soon to be passed Health Care Reform.

December 23, 2009 at 9:36:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous late from north said...

Bravo Pesha, Keep your eyes open and your head up, there so much slur which is not allowed, but whta the Barcak Obama said; just prove that a dog eat other dog, everywhere wehere a dog get some higest postion to do it.

December 24, 2009 at 8:32:00 AM GMT  
Blogger Ari said...

I just added this to my blog:

Dec. 26, 2009: I call Obama "racist."

It has been quite a few weeks now and no apology or any discussion on this matter with any Rroma that I have heard of. He would have apologized to any other ethnic group (or any other group, minority or not) he insulted because to not do so would have harmed his career. Using the slur itself did not automatically make him a "racist" to me. However, there have been many, many letters to the White House about this and he has been told that he used an ethnic slur against us. I am certain he learned that he would have no repercussions from ignoring us.

He made the decision to not apologize based on the ethnicity ("race") involved. Hence I call him "racist." I doubt that he cares one way or other about us but the fact that he would have apologized to any other group shows disregard based on "race." Again... racist.

I am also disgusted with him morally. Were I in his position, I, myself, would have felt bad for using a slur against anyone and I would have apologized because it is the right thing to do.

December 26, 2009 at 5:24:00 PM GMT  
Blogger Pesha said...

Exactly right Ari,,his insult is magnified by his refusal to make apology..simply not acceptable

To the Anonymous poster
Hmmmm a US president who doesn't know what he's saying ?????

Compared to JFK ? Really Anon..Really,

December 26, 2009 at 11:36:00 PM GMT  
Blogger ChaCha said...

I was an avid follower up to this point as I felt it held a light to the issues involved with oppression of the Roma.

However, spreading clearly false fabricated oppressive propaganda to mitigate other false oppressions takes away from the real issues that must be addressed.

Calling me purple makes you less amber? I don’t get it…

I”ll go elsewhere if I want to invest in making a real difference.

your first statement was correct, an emotional response was generated. I'll learn elsewhere how I can facilitate solace for the Roma.

January 24, 2010 at 8:32:00 AM GMT  
Blogger Pesha said...

ChaCha
There are of course a great many pressing and significant issues faced by our people.
Having said that using words like "gypped" does have an impact on the preception the outsside world has of a race they actually know very little about.
If Obama did not know the meaning of the word..then why has there been no apology?
I do not always agree with comments made on this blog, but I do not delete them, even the highly offensive ones I tend to leave in situ',
On the whole differing opinions promote healthy debate..but ..if we run out and slam the door when others have a different opinion we don't get very far at all.
This week it is Holocaust memorial day (international).
Don't take comfort in the thought that it could not happen again...because it DOES, and it's happeneing to our people TODAY as I write this.
There are derrogatory names and words used to describe many races of people, I don't need to repeat them we all know full well what they are, if they are used in public it promotes public out rage..and rightly so
But such derrogatory words are freely used against our people, belittling our culture, and it is only we, ourselves that object
"Gypped"???
Sorry Chacha not acceptable from anyone, certainly not from the President of USA

January 24, 2010 at 12:01:00 PM GMT  
Blogger Em said...

I understand your anger at the use of the term 'gyyped', it is deeply offensive, and he should apologise for its use.
To buy into the 'birther' conspiracy is something that you should be cautious about. Even if Obama was born in Kenya, being thechild of an American citizen grants him American status. To ask someone from a racial minority to 'prove' that they are entitled to their role is deeply disturbing, think about the historical implications.
You may not like Obama, you may not agree with his policies, but to suggest that he is an imposter based on the conspiracy theory created by extreme right wing groups in the US is, frankly, disappointing.

February 13, 2010 at 7:49:00 PM GMT  
Blogger Loukas said...

Oh, brother. More "birther" silliness (hatred). Don't miss your episode of Glenn Beck today, ma'am.

I was interested in the lives and times of Gypsy people but your blog has no credibility to speak for the character of such. I'll look elsewhere.

March 13, 2010 at 1:23:00 AM GMT  
Blogger Shanon said...

As an American I can tell you... 90% of the people in the US do NOT know the meaning of the term Gyped. We do not know anything about gypsies or their struggles, 'gyped' is just another slang term in our vocabulary. This is why your blog is important - you should be educating with our judging or throwing accusations. I think you should focus more on being an upstanding example of the gypsy people. -- Just my 2 cents

May 8, 2010 at 5:33:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1. You have too much free time.
2. The Romani aren't a race, they're a people.
3. He knew what the word meant otherwise he would not have used it in that context. (Likewise one can be 'screwed' but it does not mean they are taking a screwdriver to their head.)
4. Speaking out of fear out of basis for reason... I, I really don't have anything constructive to say about that. Try reading up on on the history of the Roma if you want to learn about what actions ruled by fear result in.
5. To even mention crystal ball gazing is gross stereotype which in itself is comparable the term 'gypped'.
6. Taking offense to a generally used if not commonly accepted word based on an allegiance to a lifestyle which claims no country to its own borderlines the moronic when pointed in the direction of a president.
7.Choosing to take offense and following up with a examination of a persons heritage in regards to the use of a word and as leverage to some ones right to presidency. Really... Anger begets only more anger and your thoughts will become you.

June 28, 2010 at 3:58:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous harchickgirl1 said...

Oh, dear.

I like to educate myself about people all over the world, and social justice is very important to me. Finding out about Romani people in Europe is just one more step in my self-education. I was enjoying and learning a lot from your blog until I came to this post.

As an American a similar age to our president, I, too, have until recently used the word 'gypped' for 'cheated out of' on a frequent basis. No one of our generation and place ever knew that this meant anything sinister at all. It was only 2-3 years ago that I came across some information that let me know the origins of this word. It was exactly then that I stopped using it.

In fact, I have caught my teenaged son using the word 'jewed' in the same context twice recently, and the origins of this word are more obvious than 'gypped'. I have come down very hard on him, like I now would if I heard him say 'gypped'. We had a very frank and long discussion about the historical context of both these words.

Please give the president the benefit of the doubt. He has probably never had occasion to understand the negative etymology of this word. The fact that he has not apologized is unfortunate. The rest of your blog, however, goes on to tarnish him knowingly and is a far worse sin than his tarnishing your cultural background unknowingly.

Do you really think that the Democratic leadership would have spent time and money supporting the bid for presidency of an ineligible person? It is only racist elements in American society who have tried to stop his presidency by any (ill-conceived) means possible who have promulgated this birther tripe. Your buying into it is disappointing and not worthy of the thoughtful person that you appear to be.

Please re-think your outrage. Two wrongs don't make a right, but knowingly spreading falsehoods is worse than unknowingly doing so.

Regards.

July 7, 2010 at 11:42:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Claire said...

Came across your blog today and read this about the slang word "gypped." I am sorry to say I never knew the origins of this word and that it could be considered hurtful. My apologies on behalf of President Obama.

August 27, 2010 at 2:19:00 AM GMT  
Blogger brycetphillips said...

I am a Rroma. I cringed when I heard Obama say gypped and think he should apologize but I think it was a genuine mistake coming from the ignorance most Americans have towards Rroma. Unfortunately a lot of Rroma help maintain this status quo by hiding their heritage and claiming to be "Italian" or something else. Anyhow your continuation into accusing Obama of riding a magic carpet on the race card followed up by delving into the utter racist lies that are this whole birth certificate disgusts me. A Rroma who is anti immigrant unbelievable, a Rroma calling the first black president a race card player. Will you say the same things when a Rroma runs for president. You do not represent the Rroma community of the USA or the world. Rather you represent the Tea Party a white supremacist movement, you are confused

November 1, 2010 at 6:37:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a heart for the Roma people but even I did not know that was where the word gypped came from. To be honest I never really thought about the etomology or even wondered. I doubt Obama did either. The remainder of your post is clearly talking points you stole from the irrational side of a fence the Republicans built here in America with their partisan crap. What could you know of it if you do not live here, Pesha? I can assure you, no white man is going to allow a black man to come to the high post of President of a super power nation without the proper paperwork, i.e. birth certificate. Have you seen the birth certificate of any other world leader? Of course you haven't. That does not mean they have false documents. It's garbage they put forth to try to throw an election and it did not work.

You need to stick to your cause for the Roma people and stay out of American politics, which is clear you know nothing about!

November 17, 2010 at 3:48:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I disagree. The word has its negative origins, but nobody bashes on your culture when they use it. It is slang, true, but it doesn't retain its original meaning. Because Obama probably didn't mean to convey intolerance, he shouldn't have to apologize.
The level of political correctness in our world is appalling. I haven't met one person who honestly had anything against Rroma culture. I'm sorry that you were offended, but the intentions behind his actions were not hostile, and if we have to judge our actions by their effects rather than their intentions, what do we become? Afraid to speak up, for one thing.
The term "Gypsy" as a derogatory word is not commonly used today. In fact, if anything, people know very little about your culture. The term originates more from "Egyptian" than anything, because people believed Romani to be of Egyptian descent or relation, which was false.
I wish I could see things from your point of view, but you're making a big deal out of nothing. There are much, much, much more pressing matters in the world than a gaff in a political speech.

January 21, 2011 at 6:54:00 PM GMT  
Blogger Michelle said...

Seriously? The worst insult on this page is you calling yourself a "gypsy" which is derogatory to me and my family.

My family was oppessed, having come to America to escape the type of hatred and bias propoganda you are spreading in this post. You know nothing about the Roma.

As an American of Bohemian Roma descent, I would rather support the Roma through other channels than this one. You are no different than those you complain about.

February 15, 2011 at 6:30:00 PM GMT  
Blogger L. said...

I visited your blog today after seeing it on the Romany Women's Union -- The Americas group on Facebook. I also have some Romany heritage although I did not grow up in the culture. All that being said, I myself have in the past used this term without realizing what it was alluding to at all (after all, I had never seen it spelled all my life so I always imagined it as a simple slang term and never imagined any racial connection.) I believe many of us have made this mistake and to hold the President out as being some sort of evil person who knew and didn't care is a bit much.

Honestly, I think it's wrong to go into a big rant on your site and start questioning his ethnicity, etc. Is your site not supposed to be promoting racial tolerance? Yes he made a mistake but I very sincerely doubt that he even knew the origin of the word or that it was tied to anything racial for heaven's sake. I think a better entry on the blog would have been one educating people about the origin of the word and why it is derogatory, not a huge rant about the President's background. I honestly think you have taken away from the credibility of this blog by doing that. and by the way, I am not American if you are wondering. I am not particularly for or against Mr. Obama but I do hate to a site built to promote a positive image of the Romany people used to spread hate against a political figure for really what I see as an unintentional slight.

April 5, 2011 at 9:31:00 PM GMT  
Blogger baskadin said...

I do not hold to any of Obama's decisions or speech or anything about him. It is embarrassing to have him as our president. I hope that America can hold out until someone is voted in. Personally I would like to have him taken out of the presidency,impeach him. I agree with the race card also. I don't care who they are or what color or creed they are as long as they are upstanding and honest and actually a servant of the people not a dictator in training. I believe he won't be happy until he has ruined America and handed it over to a mighty fall.

American's need to wake up and learn some pride in themselves and where they came from and who they are just as all people should. No one people should tear the other down but be glad of their difference and celebrate them.

He may not apologize but I do. He definately is not the heart of Americans.

May 31, 2011 at 1:10:00 AM GMT  
Blogger baskadin said...

Obama does not speak for all American's. If a slight has been made then it would good to have it pointed out to the person so they have a chance to respond. That being said, Obama played the race card for sure. I have no problem for anyone of any race or creed be president as long as he has the best at heart for America. He does not. I hope that America can stand long enough for him to be out of office. The next 4 presidents willhave to repair all the damage he has done.

He should be impeached for throwing in with terrorists, for making decisions on health care that, instead of fix it, sinks it deeper in to disrepair. I could go on and on....

If he knew he made a misstep I wouldn't trust his apology if he made one. He very much is pushing for a "regime" with him as a dictator.

He has no business in office, he makes a joke of it.

Anyway, way off target. I am ignorant of your plight specifically but aware of it in general.

May 31, 2011 at 1:17:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for your advocacy work. Every man, woman, and child deserves the right to live freely and without attack because of their culture, race, faith, identity, or way of life. As someone fairly knowledgeable about issues of identity, privilege, and social justice, I was ignorant about the use of the "G" word until my partner (who lived in Romania for several years) pointed it out to me. As soon as she mentioned it, it was obvious and I felt ashamed. None of us are beyond reproach, so it should always be possible for all of us to learn and redeem ourselves. Refusing to apologize for saying something offensive, however, is not acceptable.

Re. the individual who made the comment about "race" vs. "people," race is itself a social construct, not a genetic one, so in many ways it is conflated with ethnicity. It is not for me to tell anyone else what race they are or are not.

I am concerned, however, by the birther nonsense. An issue that refuses to die despite sound evidence of Mr. Obama's birth in the United States. As suggested by another post, I also think that going down this path detracts from the core issue of Obama's choice of words and the overall efforts of this otherwise informative and helpful site.

June 4, 2011 at 11:24:00 PM GMT  
Blogger Szekelys own said...

Wow! What an out pouring of (often) misinformation I find here today!
1st, I am PROUD Rroma woman and Mother to 3 wonderful Rroma children who show their heritage PROUDLY. And 9 Rroma grandchildren who are also PROUD of their heritage!
2nd, I am American born. My husband was NOT. He immigrated and fought in WWII before marriage. One of the children were born out of the US and I can assure you that my being American did NOT automatically give the child automatic status as an American citizen! Anymore than Mr Obama's Mum being citizen would have given it to him. That DOES happen automatically IF the child is born in a MILITARY hospital IF at least one parent is US military.
3rd Our people ARE hurt by some of us claiming another, seemingly more "acceptable" race such as Italian. (My Aunt Carmen did this when she married a caucasion Army man and came to the states MANY years ago. (It didn't work as she was called a W name that sounds like what chinese stir fry is prepared in!) Anyhow...
4th I now have a caucasion son in law. His point of view on Mr Obama's statement was as follows.. "what if it had been a white president and he referred to something done in poor fashion as being 'niggerly'?" You can BET the president would have whip lash from the out cry of racism over THAT remark! It would be DEMANDED of him to PUBLICLY apologize and in VERY short time!
So my question is this... If ONE race cannot be singled out to use words that are offensively descriptive to another HOW is it ok to do it to another race? OURS!(and just so you know 'niggerly' IS just that to some, as is 'jewed' AND 'gyped'to others!)
Just the thought of a proud Rroma with an inquisitive, and hopefully, FAIR mind. Thanks for listening. V. Szekely

July 11, 2011 at 4:07:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OBAMA 2012

August 13, 2011 at 8:28:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re:"niggerly", I believe the word you want is "niggardly". Or perhaps you simply misspelled it. Please check yourself and your facts before posting items for others to read, it only adds to the confusion.

February 26, 2012 at 4:59:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I can offer a little insight to this post. When I lived in the UK I heard many East Asians use the term "Halfcaste", a term that I had to explain to my British Bangladeshi friend when she used it to describe my racial mixture would be offensive to most people in the States. Other terms that are commonly used in other parts of the world that can be extremely offensive, mainly to Black Americans, are Mulatto, Negro, Sambo and Colored. These are considered innocent racial identifications in other parts of the world and once were used in the U.S, but because they are mired in a complicated and negative history for Blacks in America they are deemed Un-PC, rather than racist. I use this example because I believe this closely relates to the term Gypsy to describe Romany people. It is more so politically incorrect and antiquated than it is racist. In other words if I was in South Africa I wouldn't take offense to someone referring to me as a Colored because of my racial mixture and the same with in South America and the Caribbean if someone referred to me as a Mulatto because their intention is not to offend even though in the U.S these terms are politically incorrect. As for the term gypped, it is used regularly in American English. The same could be said about the term "Dutch courage" or "paddy wagon" which are considered innocent phrases in American english today, but should be politically incorrect in regards to their original meaning, which was calling the Irish violent criminals and calling the Dutch drunkards. Even the popular children's rhyme, "Ennie Meanie Minee Mo", has negative racial implications as the original song was, "Catch a Nigger by the toe" yet today most non-Blacks do not know why the song may make some Blacks cringe when they hear it. There are many more examples of terms and phrases we use today that's original meaning was not so innocent. In these cases I believe the proper way to describe these instances are as politically incorrect speech, not hate or racist speech. There is a difference.

As for your clearly bias views on race in America in regards to Blacks and the race card. For starters if you don't know anything about American history, as you are British, it is best for you not to comment on this subject. I think sometimes people forget the reason so much attention is given to many terms used against Blacks and Native Peoples here in the USA has to do with what their original status was in American society, not with favoritism or an attempt to appease them. Once upon a time they weren't people and once blacks and Native people were free these ideologies were upheld through laws and Jim Crow rules that were just as recently as 40 years ago regarded as antiquated and wrong. So as much as Americans would like to think this is ancient history it is very recent history, so for a Black or Native person your parents, even if you are in your 20's lived on the back end of a system that was meant to control them for no other reason but their race. Though I understand this may have been the same for some groups of Romany people, this took place more so in Europe than in the U.S. Mainly because under the old system here in the U.S, historically being White always took precedence over anything else. Honestly outside of the Holocaust and my experience living in the U.K I've honestly never heard of anyone treating Romany people badly in America. There are some that live in my area and many people, whether they be white, black or whatever, just see them as White people quite frankly. Unlike in the U.K where I have heard people say hateful things and discriminate against Romany people.

May 23, 2012 at 9:49:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

99% of Americans have never heard the word Roma before, nor could they tell you what one is. If you asked Americans what a Roma or Gypsy is most will give you a blank look. Maybe Obama has not apologized because he doesn't know, nor has anyone pointed out to him what the word means or that it's about a people called Roma.

I only know what it is because of a show on tv called lock up raw on MSNBC international version. This Roma guy explained the history of the Roma people, what it is and the struggles they face. I'm almost 30. Maybe you should go on talk shows and try to educate Americans about Roma and history.

September 27, 2012 at 10:03:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am quite confident that President Obama has been well versed by his minions on the history of the Gypsy race. I can only add, that in my opinion any people that have roamed like they have for so many years ( whether we approve of their life-style or not)...will eventually find a home that they can rightfully call their own.

If I may, a Canadian's opinion.

December 13, 2012 at 5:23:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're really going to go that far over a letter missing. Wow. Would you have responded to a person of your mental persuasion the same way? Your intolerance is bigoted don't you think?

May 5, 2013 at 7:10:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it only falsehood if the mainstream media doesn't get on the band wagon?
I'm not saying it is or isn't really. But don't you think that in a realm of seemingly infinite knowledge-that possibility you just might not have all the actual facts yourself? I don't necessarily follow this theory, but judging by Obama's record and behavior I am smart enough to know that vigilence is the minimum. Not to mention how unbiased experts in document authentication have admitted that the documents raise many red flags. I don't need an specific theory to make me question my president. His record does that ready.
I wish you well. I hope you will at least keep a healthy open-mindedness about yourself rather than buying into what is fed to us from the media about our president.

May 5, 2013 at 7:23:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't get it-she can't reverberate the concerns that a substantial number of Americans actually question facts of, themselves? Her's is an outside perspective akin to so many who find themselves questioning Obama in general. The man is a mess and he's enjoying his second megalomaniac term, which the voting process is currently being investigated due to documented reports and evidence of voter fraud all over the country.
Wake up. Please.

May 5, 2013 at 7:31:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Hatred'? Hmmm...you sound like a complete bigot drunk off your imposition to neuter yourself in the name of 'political correctness.' It takes balls to call a spade a spade. Doesn't look like you even own yours anymore.
I find it hateful that you put words in people's mouths and make untrue stereotypes of people who think a certain way. How's that?

May 5, 2013 at 7:38:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember, it's only a lie if you can prove that it is. How have you proved it's a lie exactly? I'll wait for your answer...

May 5, 2013 at 7:43:00 AM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, I don't buy into conspiracy theories. Know that first of all. Period.
But I think if we are honest, we have to admit that Obama has indeed played the race card all over the place. He is NOT black. He is half white and half African. But he definitely runs with his African origins far more than his mothers Irish origins-which I find very strange due to the fact that his white mother raised him his entire life and also in a majority part of his childhood with an Indonesian Step Father. His actual Father was absent most of his childhood and life. He has never spent any majority with his actual African family. He is not like them at all. Look at African Immigrants-he is nothing like them! If he was, he would be embracing our country and its liberties, working hard to make it in a free enterprise culture and . Instead, he's the epitome of black special interest groups, such as ACORN which lost it's government support after their illegal/fraudulent activity was brought to light. He has ties with extremist groups that no one on the main networks like to talk about. Why is that? That would be something called "special interests." Perhaps you've heard of it? And the DNC loves hawking their special interests via the media and painting it a palatable color. The RNC is no angel either, however. So this isn't a political slam either. It is about integrity, which by his Kerry style flip-flopping, would insinuate he lacks consistency, integrity and honesty.
The fact that he is indoctrinated by bullying 'Chicago Way' of politics is enough as it is. Add to the fact that he has embellished so much of his own identity in other ways makes his manipulatory nature more than obvious and makes the issue of false identity in other forms remotely possible, does it not? But even if his birth certificate was not an issue, look at him as a whole person-he is a smooth talking, bullying, crony, pathological liar a.k.a. "Chicago way" politician with a superiority complex and an irreverence for common sense and even less for The United States Constitution and then almost nothing for it's citizens.
If you value truth, you may do right by yourself to consider asking yourself why exactly it took so long for him to finally furnish this document, maybe-yes?
Thanks for being a thinker-we need more. But don't expand your mind just to simply close it up to satiate yourself. Learning is like life in that it is a journey, not a destination. Otherwise you become close minded.

May 5, 2013 at 3:34:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You're right! Because the facts shouldn't matter, after all. You must be archaic in your insistence that her British nationality exempts her from free speech, correct? But then again, she probably knows too much about universal healthcare also. We wouldn't want any American to see it for what it really is, would we? That could be devastating!
It's bad when you have an educated foreigner who can spit the truth out when our own media butt kissers refuse to show the whole picture. And labeling her with extremists for speaking the truth shows your own interests matter more than truth. YOU are the extremist. NOT Pesha.
Pesha, thank you for being honest -even when people hate it. I appreciate you! Please continue to speak out, you have more Americans who agree with you than you know.

May 5, 2013 at 3:42:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pesha,
You've got to cull these ridiculous Obama loving, truth hating nonsense responses. It's clouding up a good post!

May 5, 2013 at 3:49:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said. But I'm with the other post that says something to the effect that it's only actually a lie or truth if you can actually prove it. And if you look at the whole picture of the birth certificate issue, it has nothing to do with race or politics. It has to do with Obama himself. And those concerned about his birth certificate should not be minimized or pinned or stereotyped as a specific group. People of many different ideals and walks question this document.
Therefore, how is this 'NONSENSE'? Do you mean to downgrade people who don't agree with you? Is that truly progressive at all on your part? I think not.

May 5, 2013 at 4:01:00 PM GMT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an American citizen w Roma heritage, we deserve an apology, whether he knew what the term meant or not. If he is a Christian man as he claims to be.

May 28, 2013 at 5:27:00 PM GMT  
Blogger brycetphillips said...

I am Romani and was insulted by the Gypped comments and his unwillingness to make a simple apology. Imagine how fast his apology would have been if he had said a totally unintentional comment towards Jews.

The fact that he is so educated and "Worldly" indicates to me he should probably know better than to say Gypped, this seems to be some attempt to fit in with old white guys and decided the fallout from angry Romas would be less than the gains he would make by a casual racist comment. That said he is a US citizen, his mother is a US citizen. However a self proclaimed Romani voice sliding into some white racist "nativism" anti immigrant crap really insults me even more. What a moron frankly, some of us are fighting in the trenches against anti immigrant anti "foreigner, outsider, illegal" attitudes. These attitudes are the whole damn reason Obama thinks its ok to say Gypped. One immigrant group against another trying to seem more American than another. YOu may feel nervous about this man of African Muslim heritage as president, especially with a name that sound similiar to our supposed enemies. Well at least hes not a thieving Gypsy, he can kick back with good ol Americans and talk trash about Gypsies. Though just to clarify again Obamas not actually an immigrant. He just feels more "exotic" and dangerous than American born citizens descended from white immigrants from Western Europe given the intrenched white supremacists attitudes in the US and in Europe

Obama has been a very disappointing president, I feel rather...swindled by him and all his campaign promises he never kept. That said he is a US citizen, and won the election fair and square. I don't really care where he was born myself.

July 4, 2013 at 8:46:00 PM GMT  
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August 19, 2013 at 9:17:00 AM GMT  

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